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Shellebrate
#21 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:24:00 PM
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Hi Jorge,
Would you tell more about the fecal transplant? I have found following this regime and taking kefir very helpful, however it makes sense to me that lactobacillus types are not indigenous to human origin gut flora. Cheers.
immunetroubles
#22 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:20:39 PM
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As far as fecal transplants, this relatively safe procedure may provide an answer or a partial answer to those of us suffering with candida. A good freind of mine just had this procedure in a Rhode Island Hospital, and cured a stubborn case of C diff with it. Essentially it is like taking probiotics but at many many times the number. A stool sample is taken from a close family member (it is tested and should not be from someone who is suspected to have candida or any other gut issues), and some is then inserted into the recipient's colon (this is a very rough description, don't know the technical details. This results in repopulating the colon entirely of the recipient and I personally am about to go to the same Doctor to see if she will consider doing this on a person with candida and an intestinal parasite.

I have no idea if they will agree to try this on someone who doesn't have C Diff, but I certainly plan to ask.

In the meantime, I'll continue with the probiotics (which I believe are helpful), and the forum diet.
immunetroubles
#23 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:29:52 PM
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#24 Posted : Friday, February 03, 2012 7:11:24 AM
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One more quick comment on fecal transplants. Even if these transplants can be performed on individuals with candida, I believe there's no way around curing candida without praticing the multi-faceted approach of diet anti-fungals and the other sensible elements outlined on the forum...there's no quick fix, but perhaps fecal transplants may be one answer in the future to change the hostile environment in the colon even more efficiently than probiotics.
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#25 Posted : Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:13:05 AM
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Able900 wrote:
Research has shown that Candida albicans are efficient at utilizing certain nutrients and supplements, especially synthetic B vitamin supplements which are usually in multiple vitamins. If your multiple vitamins contain even one B vitamin,
I would stop it right away.


Hey Able,

Perhaps this question is silly, but I'm not a biochemist:

You call out synthetic B vitamin supplements as being bad; are there any natural B vitamin supplements that are ok? Or are all B vitamins inside multi-vitamins considered synthetic because they are not from actual food?

I've seen some of your other posts where it seemed that your chief compaint about multi-vitamins was the fact that many had a poor balance of B-vitamins. So I checked the balance in mine and it looked ok -- ranged from 100% to 167% in terms of % daily value. No crazy percentages in the thousands. SO I had thought that my multi-vitamin was ok, but after seeing this post of yours now I'm wondering again. Below is what my multi-vitamin contains. Is this helping the candida because of the B-vitamins? Do you think it is detrimental in any other way?

Thanks

FOUR TABLETS SUPPLY:
Vitamin A (as retinyl palmitate and 75% as beta-carotene) 4,000 IU 80%
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid and 13% as ascorbyl palmitate) 200 mg 333%
Vitamin D (as cholecalciferol) 800 IU 200%
Vitamin E (as d-alpha-tocopheryl succinate) 100 IU 333%
Thiamin (as thiamin pyrophosphate) 1.5 mg 100%
Riboflavin (as riboflavin-5-phosphate) 2 mg 118%
Niacin (as niacinamide and 20% as niacin**) 25 mg 125%
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxal-5-phosphate) 2 mg 100%
Folate (as folic acid)*** 600 mcg 150%
Vitamin B12 (as cyanocobalamin) 10 mcg 167%
Biotin 500 mcg 167%
Pantothenic acid (as D-calcium pantothenate) 15 mg 150%
Calcium (50% from calcium glycerophosphate,
40% from raw bone, 10% from calcium orotate) 200 mg 20%
Phosphorus (72% from calcium glycerophosphate,
28% from raw bone) 107 mg 11%
Iodine [from kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum)] 150 mcg 100%
Magnesium (71% from magnesium glycinate, 17% from
magnesium aspartate, 12% from magnesium gluconate) 210 mg 53%
Zinc (as zinc monomethionine) 20 mg 133%
Selenium (as selenomethionine) 100 mcg 143%
Copper (as copper aspartate) 3 mg 150%
Manganese (as manganese aspartate) 3 mg 150%
Chromium (as chromium polynicotinate) 120 mcg 100%
Molybdenum (as sodium molybdate) 100 mcg 133%
Potassium (as potassium aspartate) 20 mg <1%
Coenzyme Q-10 5 mg *
L-Histidine (as L-histidine HCl) 20 mg *
L-Glutathione 40 mg *
L-Carnitine (as L-carnitine tartrate) 25 mg *
L-Methionine 100 mg *
L-Lysine HCl 100 mg *
L-Phenylalanine 50 mg *
L-Threonine 50 mg *
Taurine 100 mg *
Pantethine 15 mg *
Choline (as choline bitartrate) 50 mg *
Inositol 50 mg *
Vanadium (as BMOV) 40 mcg *
Boron (as calcium borogluconate) 3 mg *
Other ingredients: Calcium carbonate, dextrose, stearic acid, croscarmellose sodium, silica, magnesium stearate and pharmaceutical glaze.
This product contains no salt, artificial flavors, color, wheat, yeast, or milk derivatives.
**CAUTION: Transient flushing and feeling of warmth might be associated with the ingestion of niacin-containing products.
***The safe upper limit of daily intake is 1,000 mcg of folate.
Able900
#26 Posted : Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:41:46 PM
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candida_sucks wrote:
SO I had thought that my multi-vitamin was ok, but after seeing this post of yours now I'm wondering again. Below is what my multi-vitamin contains. Is this helping the candida because of the B-vitamins? Do you think it is detrimental in any other way?

You asked about natural sources of B vitamins. That would be kefir, yogurt, and probiotics, all of which will reestablish the flora in your system allowing the flora to produce the B vitamins in the amounts and types that are needed by your body.

The one you described also contains dextrose which is a simple sugar otherwise known as glucose.

Able
immunetroubles
#27 Posted : Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:08:37 PM
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Able

I have chronic B12 deficiency, and have had it for years since returning from Mexico with Cryptosporidium. Are B12 shots a problem for candida sufferers and are oral B complex vitmains a problem, even if I ensure they contain no forbidden extra ingredients? Thanks again for all your time. Lynda
candida_sucks
#28 Posted : Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:37:55 PM
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Able900 wrote:
The one you described also contains dextrose which is a simple sugar otherwise known as glucose.

Able


D'oh! Thanks, Able. Do you happen to know, in general, if the things listed on vitamin labels under "other ingredients" are present in large quantities? I'm just curious how much I've been feeding the candida all this time.

Thanks
Able900
#29 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2012 5:37:49 PM
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Hello, Lynda.

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I have chronic B12 deficiency, and have had it for years since returning from Mexico with Cryptosporidium. Are B12 shots a problem for candida sufferers...
I've never seen research concerning B vitamin shots along with Candida; but I would imagine that, if you know for a fact that you're more deficient in 12 than others there would be a problem having the shots.
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and are oral B complex vitmains a problem, even if I ensure they contain no forbidden extra ingredients?

Quality-wise, it'd be much more beneficial to obtain your B vitamins from kefir, Greek yogurt, and probiotics.

Able
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